Actor Carl McDowell from HBO's Ballers joins host Elias on the podcast. This was recorded early January. We talk about how he went from playing football to teaching to acting and how he landed the part of TTD on HBO’s hit show Ballers. We also talk about the band he is in called Left on Laurel (formerly known as The Sandwich), with band members Michael Rosenbaum Rob Danson, Tom Lally, Kent Irwin.
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